Concentrated is more economical, so that's what I get and mix with distilled water. Why pay $37 for Toyota Red when you can get Beck/Arnley or Pentofrost A1 or some other brand for $25 or even less? Check the MSDS and see for yourself. Follow the money, and you will find the tricksters! Just use a HOAT coolant, and you will have exactly what you need. It's a marketing gimmick designed to burrow deeper into your wallet like a blood-sucking parasite. They do this on purpose to control you and manipulate you into being freaked-out about other colors so that you will buy their over-priced coolant. The coolants are the same, but the color dye is different. Car company B sells another that is Y color, etc. ![]() Car company A sells their own brand of coolant that is X color. Other Asian companies may use Blue, Green, or whatever. The Toyota Pink is not backwards compatible for the older years, like our Camrys. The Toyota Red is forward compatible to the newer years as well. Toyota uses Red (concentrated) or Pink (diluted). The colors are ONLY for ease in identification of the coolants because certain auto manufacturers used certain colors. I confirmed this with a Beck/Arnley specialist who told me that their four colors (Red, Pink, Blue, Green) were actually the exact same thing (two are concentrates and two are diluted with a slightly different additive). Do you think your Toyota can sense what color dye is in your coolant? Huh? I personally don't mix the colors, but if you do it's OK as long as the ingredients are the same. As long as the ingredients are the same, that is what counts. There may be others, but as long as it's a phosphated OAT (HOAT) with no silicates, no borates and no amines, you are good to go. There are a couple of non-Toyota coolant brands that I know of that fit the bill: Beck/Arnley, Pentofrost A1 (Made by a German company named Pentosin), Zerex Asian Vehicle formula (but I can't find it in concentrated only pre-mix). BUT, it does not have to be the Toyota red or pink coolant, as long as the ingredients are the same. This means that most coolants on the shelf at your local auto parts store will NOT fit the bill. The coolant should be made out of ethylene glycols, phosphates (inorganic acid salts) with Organic Acid Technology (which makes it a Hybrid Organic Acid Technology or "HOAT"), no silicates, and no borates or amines (2-EHA is an amine). I came to the conclusion that there is a specific type of coolant that the Asian engineers decided works best in our cars. I researched this almost an entire day a while back. Perhaps I can help with the coolant issue. Everything else comes by the jug.Someone posted this on ToyotaNation and thought it gave some insight to the coolant madness in today's cars, especially Toyota: Old cars and anything "contaminated" that isn't getting flushed get the bulk tank global yellow(slightly more expensive than regular green). ![]() I keep several different coolants on hand at the shop. There's a lot of plastic being used for plumbing and water pump impellers along with seal materials that may have compatibility issues. You can eliminate the long term protection and in some cases cause system damage. 50/50 Prediluted Vehicle Antifreeze, 50/50 Prediluted Prestone Vehicle Antifreeze, Fuel Filters for Buick Super Series 50, Starter Parts for Buick Super Series 50. That's hard to come by on 30 year old cars.įor those of you with newer(2000's and up), don't use anything but OE spec coolants. Non-silicate, non-amine, non-nitrite and non-borate coolant formulated with long-life hybrid organic acid technology. Starting with a pristine system would be important too. Genuine Toyota Super Long Life Antifreeze/Coolant is a new generation ethylene glycol based coolant which is pre-diluted 50:50 with de-ionized water for freeze protection to -34F. To achieve long life, all old coolant must be removed. ![]() With our miniscule capacity, cost isn't really a big factor. Ford hasn't really had a long life coolant until the mid/late 2000's(premium gold).īut, yes, it would be overkill on our old turds. The Honda blue keeps systems looking like brand new, as I have observed on 8-10 year old timing belt/water pump jobs. The newer Asian coolants are really good.
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